The first part of that comment was half-joking, that’s why I clarify when I begin speaking seriously and why I used the same “lost cause” phrasing the replied comment used for Discord.
Just because I like Trixie does not mean she is incapable of being in the wrong; Much of her humor comes from the fact that she is in the wrong and the entertainment it brings. A fictional character does not need to be someone I would enjoy the company of in real life or even be morally respectable to be enjoyable on a tv show. Queen Chrysalis is debatably the antagonist least receptive to reform in FiM, and she is undeniably morally worse than Trixie, but I love her character too, because she is an entertaining villain.
Both Starlight and Trixie each committed crime twice, one is more forgiven than the other, Starlight had more resources, that also means she revealed her past to make Twilight became sympathy for her, while Trixie ain’t got that opportunity and committed crimes earlier like while Twilight was new to friendship things.
@teikan
There’s a difference between being honest and saying it like it is, and being unnecessarily blunt with no tact. You can absolutely be a jerk while you call a spade a spade.
@spikeyboy
Fostering friendship is not the same as attempting to meddle in peoples’ personalities to improve them. She never actively attempts to make people less of a jerk (Trixie, Flim/Flam, Neighsay, every other single-episode jerk antagonist, etc.) because that’s not her job.
Twilight almost certainly already knows why, but that doesn’t help with this at all. Trixie would just lash out if Twilight tried to help.
Finally, the topic this post is about was resolved very quickly after Trixie became a recurring character. Trixie even its in a later episode that she’s no longer jealous of Twilight, and she isn’t nearly as much of a jerk as she was in earlier seasons. Late-series Trixie is more naively insensitive than actively assholish, and Twilight doesn’t treat her with her former suspicion.
@Fwelin
Yeah, she’s not a therapist, she’s the Princess of Friendship, it is quite literally her job. I disagree that Twilight trying to help would make things worse, getting to understand why Trixie feels this way about her is the first step to helping her improve.
@spikeyboy
Trixie’s best friend wants to kill her on an episodic basis; I love Trixie, but she is the definition of a lost cause. She’s a princess, not a miracle worker.
More seriously, friendship is a 2-way street. At worst, it is both Twilight and Trixie’s faults, but I think even saying that takes a lot of the agency out of Trixie’s actions.
@spikeyboy
Most of Trixie’s assholery is due to her being insecure compared to Twilight. Twilight trying to help would just make things worse. The other part is just a part of Trixie that she doesn’t see any issues with, which isn’t going to be a simple thing to change.
Also, it’s not Twilight’s responsibility to make every single jerk in her life become less of a jerk. She’s not a therapist.
@Dragonpone
so twilight doesn’t think to… y’know, help them become better? she can reform them, but not take a day to help them readjust their attitudes? discord’s probably a lost cause, but trixie’s just insecure, twilight could very much get to understand her, she just doesn’t care enough to.
@Hermaeus Xerxes
I mean, her continuing to be a dick is exactly the problem, isn’t it?
Most of the characters who reform become kind, and Twilight treats them kindly in return. Trixie and Discord have one favorite person, and act annoying towards everyone else (and enjoy getting a rise out of Twilight in particular) even after they reform. I’d be annoyed too if I were in Twilight’s position.
Twi and Trixie’s petty enmity towards one another is so fucking funny, like Twi has forgiven so much, but this one street magician who’s a bit of a dick is unforgivable.
@Background Pony #8DF1
“i love trixie but she’s not someone worth trying to help improve or understand”
You’ve got a weird definition of love.
There’s a difference between being honest and saying it like it is, and being unnecessarily blunt with no tact. You can absolutely be a jerk while you call a spade a spade.
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“trixie’s a lost cause”
Fostering friendship is not the same as attempting to meddle in peoples’ personalities to improve them. She never actively attempts to make people less of a jerk (Trixie, Flim/Flam, Neighsay, every other single-episode jerk antagonist, etc.) because that’s not her job.
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Yeah, she’s not a therapist, she’s the Princess of Friendship, it is quite literally her job. I disagree that Twilight trying to help would make things worse, getting to understand why Trixie feels this way about her is the first step to helping her improve.
Trixie’s best friend wants to kill her on an episodic basis; I love Trixie, but she is the definition of a lost cause. She’s a princess, not a miracle worker.
Most of Trixie’s assholery is due to her being insecure compared to Twilight. Twilight trying to help would just make things worse. The other part is just a part of Trixie that she doesn’t see any issues with, which isn’t going to be a simple thing to change.
so twilight doesn’t think to… y’know, help them become better? she can reform them, but not take a day to help them readjust their attitudes? discord’s probably a lost cause, but trixie’s just insecure, twilight could very much get to understand her, she just doesn’t care enough to.
I mean, her continuing to be a dick is exactly the problem, isn’t it?
i don’t find it funny, personally i find it kinda gross
i still hate twilight for that
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