equality does not equal fairness, and vice versa, unless Books like 1984 and Harrison Bergeron were checked out by twilight you’d think little miss bookhorse the second would have some sense of this
@PacificGreen
Headcanon? She was a blank flank for a long time, sucked at almost everything, and wanted everyone to be as bad as her–then found out that controlling others was her special talent…
@Background Pony #FC01
Literally nothing about this creates even a semblance of moral complexity.
Actually, it DOES generate moral complexity to construct a scenario where an immoral crusade is borne of a legitimate complaint. Yes, the villains were obviously wrong, but the people or society being defended may be guilty of something less obvious themselves that warrants some serious introspection.
But aside from that, you seem to be reaching pretty far beyond the premise of this comic (I assume that it’s the “this” you were referring to). The comic doesn’t suggest in any way that Starlight’s actions are justified. It just offers an explanation as to where her personal crusade come from.
I for one would rather see fans explore characters further and assign them dramatic backstories that give them moral complexity and challenge standards of Black-and-White Morality
Literally nothing about this creates even a semblance of moral complexity. Just because someone was allowed something more than you at some point of your life doesn’t mean you can go and abduct, imprison, brainwash and terrorize people to make yourself feel like hot shit again, and be any less in the wrong morally.
Tragic villain backstories always, without fail, spawn people who treat them like hard canon fact.
So what I’m gathering from this is: it’s not even the stories that are a problem, they’re just in good fun. You have a problem with people who take them seriously and start building a headcanon on it. Which, ironically, is more likely the better the fanfic/comic/picture/whatever is.
I have no idea why something so petty inspires such contempt, but I guess I can at least see where you’re coming from.
I for one would rather see fans explore characters further and assign them dramatic backstories that give them moral complexity and challenge standards of Black-and-White Morality, regardless of what such concepts “spawn”.
Look at Garo the Anime and Dio Brando from Jojo. The villians have Tragic pasts….that are completely negated by their actions being a Million times Worst than the shit they went through
I will, however, note that you did not address my point. What do you care?
Tragic villain backstories always, without fail, spawn people who treat them like hard canon fact.
People who can’t accept that not everyone is a misunderstood or misguided good person. That sometimes acting like a massive cunt actually means someone’s a massive cunt.
@Justy
I neither confirm nor deny your assertion (much less your definition of “shitfic”).
I will, however, note that you did not address my point. What do you care?
@Justy
So what’s wrong with that? Nobody’s making YOU read it.
Coming up with absurd and bizarre backstories for characters that don’t have them already is something of a pastime of every fandom.
At least I’d be laughing for the right reasons.
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Headcanon? She was a blank flank for a long time, sucked at almost everything, and wanted everyone to be as bad as her–then found out that controlling others was her special talent…
Actually, it DOES generate moral complexity to construct a scenario where an immoral crusade is borne of a legitimate complaint. Yes, the villains were obviously wrong, but the people or society being defended may be guilty of something less obvious themselves that warrants some serious introspection.
But aside from that, you seem to be reaching pretty far beyond the premise of this comic (I assume that it’s the “this” you were referring to). The comic doesn’t suggest in any way that Starlight’s actions are justified. It just offers an explanation as to where her personal crusade come from.
So what I’m gathering from this is: it’s not even the stories that are a problem, they’re just in good fun. You have a problem with people who take them seriously and start building a headcanon on it. Which, ironically, is more likely the better the fanfic/comic/picture/whatever is.
I have no idea why something so petty inspires such contempt, but I guess I can at least see where you’re coming from.
I for one would rather see fans explore characters further and assign them dramatic backstories that give them moral complexity and challenge standards of Black-and-White Morality, regardless of what such concepts “spawn”.
That’s usually kind of the point, actually. What they went through does not justify their own actions.
Very Rarely are they done well.
Look at Garo the Anime and Dio Brando from Jojo. The villians have Tragic pasts….that are completely negated by their actions being a Million times Worst than the shit they went through
Though usually the intention with such stories is to show that, whatever the villain went through, it doesn’t justify the things that they did.
People who can’t accept that not everyone is a misunderstood or misguided good person. That sometimes acting like a massive cunt actually means someone’s a massive cunt.
I neither confirm nor deny your assertion (much less your definition of “shitfic”).
I will, however, note that you did not address my point. What do you care?
Shitfic writer and/or reader detected.
So what’s wrong with that? Nobody’s making YOU read it.
Coming up with absurd and bizarre backstories for characters that don’t have them already is something of a pastime of every fandom.
Both wrong. Towairaito Supaakuru.
Actually, it’d probably be “Twiraito”.
ONORE TWIRIGHTO!
Just you watch.
What the shit is a Dekaadé?
That’s gonna be a tall order. Right now I have more sympathy for Sombra than I do for this little shit.
Oh boy, here we go.
ETA for the first apologist fics: 12 hours.